Thank You Everyone After spending an Hour on Traktor Pro 2 last night and still having No Idea 'How' to Set A Cue Point; or 'Why' when the Tracks were in Sync it was a Complete Traincrash All The Time; I went to bed wondering whether to even Open the Programme again; (as I have my 10 Decks on Ableton that I Know How To Use)
A greater understanding of how other programs work can, but not always, lead to developing new and exciting ways to use the programs you're comfortable with. Your beatgrids were more than likely off as they're what tells Traktor how to sync the tracks. You can study the keyboard mapping in that thread to see how the default mapping sets cue points. You'll more than likely need to go into preferences and tell Traktor your using the keyboard mapping by setting the in port to keyboard. There is no out for keyboard mappings since there's no LED feedback.
I don't even know How To Set A Beatgrid in Traktor Chris ; So I will have a look at the Manual when I don't have So Many Committments Elsewhere
Hi, First of all - I really appreciate this question, as it lets me explain the difference between a value itself and a rendering of that same value. Here we go: beaTunes detects keys and writes that information to the (in the case of mp3s) id3 tags of your audio file. It does this exactly as specified in the id3 specification, posted at http://www.id3.org/id3v2.4.0-frames#line-385 There it's clearly stated that programs, if they want to conform to the id3 standard, must write musical keys names to the TKEY tag. E.g. D Flat Minor (Camelot: 12A, Open Key Notation (OKN): 5m) must be written as "Dbm". Very simple. Any software that correctly implements the id3 specification does exactly that. Because it ensures interoperability, that is a good thing. Now, you might argue that you really don't care about the musical name of the key, you want to see notation XYZ in your software and therefore programs should be allowed to write XYZ notation to the TKEY tag. And here comes the point I mentioned at the beginning. If all programs wrote the key correctly in the way the spec states it should be written (i.e. "Dbm"), other software that reads the tag, can rely on the TKEY string having that format and then choose to render it in another way, e.g. as "12A" or "5m" or "@#$". There is no need to write the key in any other format to the tag. There is just a need to render it in different ways. "Dbm" is the standard way to encode D Flat Minor, while any software displaying the TKEY field should decode this value to show, i.e. render, the actual name in whatever notation the user chooses. This is exactly what beaTunes does. It renders the key name as musical name and additionally in OKN (http://www.beatunes.com/open-key-notation.html). In order to conform to the id3 spec, it does not write any fancy notation to the TKEY tag, because that would make it hard for other software to properly handle the tag. Ideally, Native Instruments added functionality to their software that lets you choose the notation you would like to see your keys in. I really hope they do this. Perhaps contacting Native Instruments support helps to speed up the process. The second issue: I'm not sure what kind of ratings you are referring to and whether Traktor embeds these in the files. Therefore it's hard to give a good answer. However, if you have beaTunes specific questions, please check out http://help.beatunes.com/ Hope this helped, -hendrik (author of beaTunes)
Thanks for the great reply. Is there a way to get Beatunes to write whichever Key Format I choose to a different field like the comments or append to Track Title. It's a great piece of software even if it takes a few hours to analyze 1500 songs but I have to sleep sometime The Key issue isn't my biggest concern now though. I have painstakingly made sure the ratings in my tracks were all correct and in Traktor they are. In every other program with one exception they never show up. The one exception being MediaMonkey. I no longer use MediaMonkey as I have had to pack away my PC. Every program from itunes, beatunes, and some others that escape me at the moment. The only reason this is a problem is that my rating system is my little system to know where in a set a song would usually fit best. If I rate it a 5 it's a peak time song, 2's a warmup or possible discard, ... so on and so forth. I would love to have the ability to see my Ratings in BeaTunes to make playlists with. If you have any input on this that would be fantastic.
Bartboy, please check out http://yeahdef.com/?p=6255 - perhaps it does what you want (this is a third party plugin - I have not tested this myself). The problem with the id3 rating field (POPM) is that it is specific to an email address - in Traktor's case the address "traktor@native-instruments.de". If you feel like trying out the latest (as of 7/19/11) development snapshot for OS X (assuming you are on OS X), download http://www.beatunes.com/download/beaTunes-3-0-3-SNAPSHOT-osx.dmg - when creating new libraries, it should pick up the Traktor rating. Anyhow, since this is starting to look a lot like support, I'd like to suggest to take further discussion to the appropriate place, i.e. http://help.beatunes.com/ Thanks, -hendrik
Sorry to hear that Emma Traktor is a very komplex program and it has its + and -. One issue is that you really has to read the manual from page 1 to the end in order to be able to use it in a basic way. I recommend that you do that before opening the program again........ And if you still want to use it after that I strongly recommend the Traktor bible if you want to get the most out of the software. IMO it is well worth spent money. http://www.traktorbible.com/en/default.aspx //DJ Hessler
i use mp3tag for id3 taggin on windows. key analysis in beatunes. bpm analysis and manual beatgridding in traktor. works best for my setup.
Just installed the demo of BeaTunes on the iMac and will test it out before installing on the DJ laptop.
It's always better to do it manually. I just think programs stuff up little things when you know it's right.
